Cafepharma March 3 - 7 2009 response

Listen up all you SLEAZY Lilly reps: How DARE YOU make fun of and name call all of the thousands of us that are experiencing withdrawals from Cymbalta. I bet YOU would not take this drug. Would you let your wife, child (over 18 of course) or any other loved one take this, as you put it, simple neuro-chemical brain bomb ? I bet not. I've been on this drug for 3 years. Under doctor supervision the whole time. My doctor "weaned" me off over a period of weeks. I am now in the throws of Cymbalta Hell. Yet you think it is FUNNY!! I am NOT DRUNK but I wish I were. It would be much easier than what I am going through. Maybe all of you ANONYMOUS reps should be the GUIENA PIGS (PIGS BEING THE CHOICE WORD HERE) for the next great Lilly drug to be tested. I hope you POST this to your CAFEPHARMA website for all to read. One last thing, all you ANONYMOUS posters, why don't you GROW SOME BALLS AND USE YOUR REAL NAMES when you make fun of and name call. WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF?

Sincerely,

(In your words) A CYMBALTA ADDLED BITCH

Uhhh we are a forum for people to share their experiences with Cymbalta withdrawal. We offer each other encouragement and support. I think maybe you intended to post this somewhere else?

I posted it correctly. You see, the Lilly reps read our posts, then re-post them on CafePharma (their message board) and then ridicule us and what we have written. Go to Cafepharma.com and scroll down. An example is FYI Cymbalta on the dates I referred to. They are getting their laughs at the expense of us and our health. Am I the only one angry at this?? I can't post on their message board, but seeing that they are reading ours, I hope they get my message.

hey don't worry Barney,



we're all going to off Cymbalta soon enough, which may mean they're out of a job.



*chortle*



Maureen.

I toatally 100% agree with Barney59 I feel your pain, I'm going threw the same thing you are and the Lilly company to rott in hell!!!!

Cecile

Thank you Maureen & Cecile for your support. I just don't think Junior understood where I was coming from. I totally understand what this website/message board is all about and the support it offers. I just didn't like the fact that Lilly Reps were using this site for their own "enjoyment". Update on myself, Day 7 off cymbalta. Still in complete hell. P.S. How ironic that I live here in Indy...home of Lilly!

Barney,
I didn't get it at first either, until I just read what you said about them reading our site, but dont they have to
be a member here to read what is here? Oh that was stupid, anyone can join, and just read away!

I am now using Prozac, yes by them, but only to help with the witdrawls of this noxious drug Cymbalta, and when
I get off of it 100% will then go off the Prozac.

Funny thing the Prozac is helping with the withdrawls, glad I read about it here.

Debbie

Maureen V

Being that you are in Australia you may not have heard about the layoffs hitting Lilly. On Sept. 14th, they announced they were cutting 5500 jobs. If you are interested in reading about it go to www.indystar.com and click on Business then healthcare&Pharma. That will take you to some interresting articles about Lilly and their future. B

Thank you Maureen & Cecile for your support. I just don't think Junior understood where I was coming from. I totally understand what this website/message board is all about and the support it offers. I just didn't like the fact that Lilly Reps were using this site for their own "enjoyment". Update on myself, Day 7 off cymbalta. Still in complete hell. P.S. How ironic that I live here in Indy...home of Lilly!

I didn't understand either and just ignored the first one until you re-posted - and thanks for the info about the site - will have a look.


I actually don't like to hear of anyone losing their job, despite what I said.

I'm quite sure a group mentality syndrome works amongst people such as sales reps, as there is in football clubs etc. Thus appalling behaviour and comments which would not be tolerated elsewhere are tolerated withing 'the group' to the point where those people think they're the ones in the right, because all they're getting from all around them is affirmation that their behaviour is acceptable.

Maureen.

Maureen

I hate the thought of 5500 workers losing their jobs also. There will be a large number from here in Indy I am sure. The impact on the central Indiana economy could be huge, and not in a good way. I lost my job here a few years ago when another large Indy employer was sold then eventually went out of business. I don't wish it on anyone. I guess my point was that maybe some of Lilly's past business practices are catching up with them. Trying to hurry up testing, approvals, etc...
B

Thank you for that info Madtabby. It was VERY VERY interesting. As a person who has done to honours level in psychology, and who has a keen interest in mental health issues, I found that illuminating. I've long been aware that the DSM is influenced by the USA's health system, specifically the fact that having a label opens the door to treatment. I believe there is a category in the current version called "dyscalculia" - essentially meaning someone who is not good at maths! That is ridiculous. I can't do physics. Does this mean I have 'dysphysics'?????????? This is one of the biggest dilemmas with a categorical system. Where do you draw the line? However, you can have problems if you use a continuum too. I've seen the definition of autism radically expanded in the past 15 years, to the point where now every 2nd person (ok, so I'm exaggerating :-p) seems to be on the spectrum now. One wonders where it is going to end.....

Here in Australia you don't need a label in order to get access to treatment, although it can certainly help. I learned when my son was diagnosed with autism (back in 1994) that having a label made a big difference. It DID give us more access to services. More recently the mental health field (in terms of community agencies) is beginning to receive funding from the federal govt. There are now programs called "PHaMs" (personal helpers and mentors schemes) where the person with mental illness is put on a 'recovery plan' and, if suitable, matched with a volunteer mentor. They do not have to have a diagnosis in order to access the program.

I don't think any system is perfect and unfortunately, the construction of the DSM is influenced by socio-political factors in the same way as anything else. But, it's all we have to work with. I know the UK uses the ICD-10 and I imagine they have the same problem.

Hi ,
All I can say about labeling is that when this is done, the person becomes their dx.
I started practicing back in 1990, and my supervisor firmly didn't believe in labels.

There are times that it must be done, but it was just being done so much with
all these behaviors, Obessive Compulsive, ADD,ADHD, and then these people
went running around calling themselves that, instead of their own names!

I have found with therapy, well with someone who knows what they are doing
can help these people, and they can just be who they are, without a labvel,and
heal what ever issues they have. I did.

How I got on antidepressants is a different story entirely!!!

Debbie

i am new here well just as of today and i can tell u how much i appreciate the info i'm getting. i don't know if this is the appropritate place to tell my whole story, although i have such a large urge to do so with other's that would understand what i've been through. appox. oct 6th i took my last dosage of cymbalta and yes i've gone thru and i think still going thru withdrawls. i was only on this for 2 months, but it was 2 mos. of hell and the ending result was the was the most horrifying situation ever. attemping suicide, my dr calling 911, which he is from reston va about 1hr and half from me. i was so combative with the ambulance ppl and police and finally put into restraints and this is so totally out of my nature, omg i'm so so embarresed to tell this. i to was a recoving alcoholic, but in those last couple days or lets say the last day of cymbalta i drinked. funny part was i was doing wonderful... no desire.. nothing. but somehow this med did it and again ruined my life. don't get me wrong on this i was the one that went and bought the stuff and was not forced to drink it, but i don't know quite how to expain it... i felt lost and just wanted to escape. i was given this for fbs and the dr gave me samples cux at the time i had no drug coverage. i went home and read up on it only becasue in the past i've had great issues with anti depressants. well needless to say it scared the hell out of me cux half of the sideeffects were things i was already dealing with. i waited a month for my appt with the dr and told him my concern and he said ohhh it will be ok..most ppl don't get these things. lol what a joke, my anxiety rate went up thru the roof. over the simplest thing i would go into a panicattack such as .... getting dark outside. i thought i was totally losing it. i can say since off of this those have gone away or back to my normal amt. of these attacks. i still don't feel normal (what is normal now days) but better than a wk ago, i have brain zaps and so forth. i've not read what withdrawls u all are going thru. i just can't pin point all of mine but i know they are there cause i don't feel like myself. i can hardly sleep...3hrs and i'm doing good lol no not funny at all. i do feel angry with my dr only because i did question him on these side effects and i've always been a person that has low tolerance to alot of meds. i'm so glad i found this site, just like the site i found for fbs...it's so helpful. please tell me what all u experienced while on the med and then off of it. it would be relieving to see that maybe i'm not the only one. thank all of u for listening to me and i hope to get a response.
lorie50

Lori,
Welcome. Welll to a great place to get support, and understanding.
I never would have found your post had it not been in my e-mails.

If you look on the main page there are topics, and there you can
pick an area to post. It gives the subjects, there are lots of great
ones.

Your not alone, and told my story in so many ways. I am a recovering drunk too! So grateful i didn't have to relapse
even though this drug ruined my life like i had been, just from all the side effects.

What i have come to find out it makes no difference how long you have been on this drug, also to just stop it cold
turkey your really going to have awful withdrawls.

It's only beeen what 3 weeks since you have had the drug, and even when we do the slow taper we have learned here
some of us still have a very hard time. I even had to go on Prozac because I was really losing it. Only to discover
i was decreasing way to fast. All due to my memory being so bad as a result of this crap.

Here is the site with all the withdrawl symptoms, at least that way you can always know it's not you, or that your going
insane, or have some other awful medical condition. That does not mean that one shouldn't have certain things checked.
http://prozactruth.com/cymbalta.htm

Please know we are all here for you, your not alone. Ask all the questions that you can think of!!!

Debbie

Hi Lorie

Glad you found us. There are lots of supportive people on this board.. so.. welcome :)

I know what you mean about the lack of sleep. I've been battling that for months. It's all about our brain chemicals being out of kilter. If you read my thread entitled, "Crap" (!!) you will know what I mean.

Regards
Junior

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