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[gail]

Hello, 3 weeks today crapbalta free.

 

In the last 3 months, I have developped, without knowing it, bruxitis. I have heard that the crap did do this. So ended up at the dentist on tuesday, prescription of Naproxen 500 to help with the inflammation. And a mouth piece.

 

Also took amoxill for bronchitis for 4 days, stopped monday,cause I was feeling like crap on it.

 

I was doing so much better up to last thusday, less anti anxiety meds and could plan a bit for the day to come.

 

In the last 4 days, anxiety went up, feeling more depressed and cry a bit. And scared of course.

 

What is it? leftover of amoxill, or crapbalta withdrawal? naproxen, 3 doses up to date? but that, I will cut in half as of today. And I sweat like mad.

 

I hate not knowing what it causing me to feel that way.  All of the above?

 

Any imput to ease my mind would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

[gail]

It just hit me that I have been taking Flovent for the last 14 days, and that also can play a role in all that anxiety.

Stopping that today.

[gail]

I'm answering my own post, I could bite my head off ! with that flovent( Cortizone) was added Nasonex(cortizone).

Looked them both up and bingo! 2 medication that can spike up anxiety. Along with the amoxill, oh boy, a mess.

 

So sorry for the rambling on, I thought I was loosing my mind!

 

On a better note, 3 feet of snow on my balcony. 2 feet of snow on the driver's side, had to get in the passenger door.

 

C'est l'hiver!

[fishinghat]

It could still be the Cymbalta biting back again but if it is it should only last a couple days. You said things went south last Thursday. When did you start the Amoxil? The half life of Amoxil is only about 1 hour so it should be out of your system by now .

[FiveNotions]

Gail, I love it that you researched each of those meds!

Also, looks like the sweats can be a Flovent side effect...rare...but we're those special little snowflakes who get all the rare crap...

http://www.ehealthme...nt/night sweats

Per this source, it's half life is 7.8 hrs....

https://www.gsksourc...-HFA-PI-PIL.PDF

My apologies...I edited this for the half life....I'd sourced the wrong med...similar spelling, but different...

[equuswoman]

gail the 2 meds you mentioned could be a cause of the increased anxiety. Being a nurse now retired at age 50 due to worn out hip..ah well that's enough about 'me'. My how my mind wanders but most times it comes back to me...

 

Hang in there. Like fishinghat said if it is Cymbalta come back to bite you. KICK it to the curb. You are stronger than you think you are and the BEST thing is that you have friends here on the forum to help you do just that!

 

I have worn a bite guard for years. My dentist way back when told me that I was grinding my teeth during the night. I didn't have a clue. But man am I GLAD that I already had the ol' bite guard in place!

 

Prayers and support for you forum friend!

TheEquusWoman

[gail]

Thank you for replying.

 

Fishinghat, started amoxil thursday, 1000mg twice a day. Took that for 4 days. Nausea, could barely eat, felt like crap.

I dont really understand about half lives, but if I read you correctly, at this point, it is out of my system?

 

Appetite is not good, even now. So that leaves Flovent and Nasonex, 13 days on it,last dose yesterday evening. That is in my system for a while??? How long?  Just came back from work and feel like s****. forcing myself to eat.

Now i'm scared to take naproxen for the inflammation.

 

Fivenotions, looked it up, seems, as you said, we are the special little snowflakes who gets it all.

 

Equuswoman, thanks for confirming this about the meds. And to tell you the truth, I'm so shook up, My strenght is burried somewhere deep, for today. Cant get in touch with it, all I want to do is cry. By the way, following your progress in those little beads left, 6 or 7.

 

That too shall pass, thanks again

[xman]

I would put all my money on the crapalta. Yes Flovent is a corticosteroid, but it's site specific and little p/u in blood, tho you did not say strength and how long you have been taking...did you? If you are/ were on 44 mcg., it is drop in bucket.

[fishinghat]

A half life of 1 hour means that in 1 hour half of the medicine is out of your system so the Amoxil is long gone.Flovent has a half life of 10 hours so it would take about a day and a half to get most out of your system.Nasonex has a half life of 6 hours so it would take about a day to get it out of your system. Now I am not suggesting you stop these. That should be up to you and your dr.

 

Nasonex can cause digestive/appetite issues. Are you suppose to stop the nasonex pretty soon?

[FiveNotions]

Thanks for the clarification xman!

Isn't it wonderful the range of knowledge and experience (both professional and personal) that we have here...individually and collectively....wow...

[gail]

Xman, 500mcg twice a day, for the last 13 days. I did not think it was Crapbalta related, could be. You mean that it does not go into the blood? same for Nasonex?

 

Fishinghat, was to write fishingnet, both were stopped yesterday evening, so if I understand correctly, it'll be out of my system by the time I wake up tomorrow. Even on 13 days of it, it'll be out of my system, right? Was supposed to take them for ten days, my mind did not register.

 

Again, this would mean that I should feel better. If not, the cullprit is crapbalta!

 

You are right, Fivenotions, a lot of knowledge here and well explained.

 

 

Will let you know how it goes, cause something is out of wack, I see it because I almost doubled the ativan, from 1.50mg to almost 3mg in the last 5 days. Never did this happen since on them. And they dont seem to do quite the job.

 

On that, merci again, you are all wonderfull and helping.

[fishinghat]

You got the timing right. Your body would still be sensitive after all you have been through but I would expect a better day tomorrow.

[gail]

Oh Fishinghat, sending a blowned snowy kiss from the Townships! And thank God for people like you.

[equuswoman]

Thank you for replying.

 

Fishinghat, started amoxil thursday, 1000mg twice a day. Took that for 4 days. Nausea, could barely eat, felt like crap.

I dont really understand about half lives, but if I read you correctly, at this point, it is out of my system?

 

Appetite is not good, even now. So that leaves Flovent and Nasonex, 13 days on it,last dose yesterday evening. That is in my system for a while??? How long?  Just came back from work and feel like s****. forcing myself to eat.

Now i'm scared to take naproxen for the inflammation.

 

Fivenotions, looked it up, seems, as you said, we are the special little snowflakes who gets it all.

 

Equuswoman, thanks for confirming this about the meds. And to tell you the truth, I'm so shook up, My strenght is burried somewhere deep, for today. Cant get in touch with it, all I want to do is cry. By the way, following your progress in those little beads left, 6 or 7.

 

That too shall pass, thanks again

 

some days 'tis good to cry. We must do whatever we have to in order to get thru this hell. Please stay in touch and let us know how you're doing. Prayers and support for you sweet forum friend! TheEquusWoman

[FiveNotions]

Magnesium, pantothenic acid (one of the B vitamins) and/or calcium deficiency can cause bruxism....and are suggested as supps. to treat it...

http://www.sleepdiso...h-grinding.html

I've lost the link, but an herb remedy source I looked at suggests chamomile tea...

[xman]

My experience w/ ppl on Flovent and Nasonex are usually on longer term. Since they go right to the site--lungs/ nose, they are not AS bad in terms of side effects,  in short term use and as like, for instance,  prednisone taken by pill.

These two medications interfere with your bodies production of cortisol--a hormone.

 

It is always recommended to taper off of Flovent so that your pituitary gland can get back to work producing the hormone, which BTW is an anti-inflammatory. 

 

Taper meaning reduce dose gradually. Have you been back 2 your doc. or called?

 

Crapalta has a serious effect on hormone levels and production. Serotonin is the big player here...

[gail]

Xman, when you say that they interfere with the cortisol, do you mean that it lowers  the cortisol, or the other way around?

 

Since anxiety and depressed mood were accentuated, I would say that it spikes up cortisol.

 

If I understand correctly, you are saying that the cortisol is anti-inflammatory?

 

You got me there! Sufficient to say, that in the end of afternoon yesterday, I was feeling a bit better.

 

Thanks for info Xman.

[xman]

gail,  it raises your cortisol level, thus providing you with anti-inflammatory response. So that your airways and sinus passage are less inflamed or constricted.

 

The bodies own cortisol levels fall at night...this means more trouble breathing etc. This is when ppl have the most trouble breathing-esp. babies.

 

I hope you feel better today gail!!

[fishinghat]

And to further complicate things stress raises your cortisol levels at both day and night. The higher cortisol at night contributes to the characteristic of stressed people getting up several times during the night to eat. And the pounds add up. lol

[gail]

Funny, up to 1 year ago, I got up evernight to eat. And that ,since I was 17 years old. Never missed a night, luckily I gained a pound or two. Never quite understood why I was doing that, could not stop myself. Started when I was beat up by a boyfriend. Rarely happens now.

 

My guess is that cortisol is at his highest in the morning, 30 min after waking up , anxiety sets in big time.

 

And I think you were both right, the crappy feeling is from the poison crabalta. Thank God, I sleep like a baby.

 

Anyway, I felt like crap till 2pm. Then, felt better. Roller coasting is the motto for now.

[TinyButMighty]

Gail - I suffer from bruxism too - nightguard just seems to end up with tracks in it where I have clenched or ground my teeth all night. I did find a thing called a face caddy - a wrap that goes around your cheeks and velcros on top of your head. Comes with two heat/ice packs. I have found that using the heat packs when I go to sleep seems to lessen the amount of bruxism ... maybe try something like that ? 

[gail]

Hi Tinybutmighty, that sounds interesting. The mouthgard is to tight, and feel like my teeth are squeezed together when I wake up.

 

I will look it up at the drugg store, thanks for the info.

[FiveNotions]

Gosh, I completely forgot to post this here....as many of you know, I started taking a yoga for seniors (a/k/a old farts) last month as a way to try to get back some of my strength and energy (it seems to be working!).....in class on Thursday the instructor had us do some exercises for TMJ/bruxism ...anyway, a couple of the class members asked for more info and she said that there's lots easily found on the internet....so, I just looked....

Just as an aside....I wouldn't recommend doing them in public.....you may end up institutionalized ..... Hehehe

Yoga for bruxism
http://tmjsymptoms.b...ga-for-bruxism/

These are the exercises we tried in class....
http://www.livestron...es-for-bruxism/

Info I got from this site helped me put a stop to a couple of major panic attacks I had recently, both of which involved my diaphragm muscles going into spasm....so, I checked to see if there was anything on bruxism....

Sinus Problems, TMJ, Jaw Pain and Bruxism Acupressure Points
http://www.acupressu...om/blog/?p=1967