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#61 fishinghat

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 02:12 PM

Bead counting MS1979. I would open up a capsule and take out a few beads more each day. It provided a smooth even withdrawal. If my withdrawal started getting worse I would just stay at that level until I stabilized. Then I would start lowering again.


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Posted 04 June 2014 - 11:32 AM

Welcome Myshell! As wagtail and others have said, you are in good hands here! I, like fishinghat have heard that Effexor is very difficult to come off of. F'hat, thismoment, fivenotions and others have "been there", and they are very good at research and sharing all they have. So, take their knowledge and wisdom and use it to your benefit! I promise you won't regret it! AND no need for apologies.... we all understand! It is so helpful just to "get it out"! Cyber hugs and prayers for brighter healthier days!!!  clara :)


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Posted 09 November 2017 - 04:22 PM

Hello everyone especially my old friends from the time you all helped me with my c/t withdrawal.
Fishinghat in particular.

I looked for this topic & need to know how everyone is coping with this effect.
To bring you up to date , I lasted 8 months after stopping Cymbalta cold turkey , admitted to hospital for 4 months where my psychiatrist introduced me to many antidepressants , all of them caused debilitating side effects & I had to keep switching to other types & brands .
Hence the need to spend 4 months in hospital .
I am currently taking an old tricyclic,DEPTRAM & Valium 3 x daily .
It's 5 years now since I made the biggest mistake of my life & stopped taking Cymbalta c/t & even though I'm on another antidepressant, I feel that I still am suffering the effects of withdrawal .
My question to everyone is , " has anyone found a cure for waking up full of dread & to scared to ever sleep in ?."
I can't even have a nana nap without fear as soon as I open my eyes .
Any suggestions will be welcome ....

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Posted 09 November 2017 - 04:50 PM

The most prescribed medicine, besides antidepressants, for fear and panic is clonidine. Benzos are fine by you know they only work a short and are addictive. Have you tried clonidine?


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Posted 09 November 2017 - 07:27 PM

Hello dear friend
No I haven't , I am addicted to Valium & as you know I've been going to withdraw for a long time but things keep happening in my life that make me too fragile to make the attempt . I still have your regime to withdraw that you wrote out for me & will use it as my guide as soon as that miraculous day eventuates .
I will speak to my doctor about clonidine @ my next appointment.
Do you think I could swap straight from Valium to clonidine or will it require a withdrawal from Valium first .?

Hope you're doing well dear man !!!!!!!

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 09:30 AM

Hello dear Wagtail,

So nice to hear from you. Valium first of course, no swapping.

Morning dread, I so know what you are talking about. That feeling, I have had it since about 11 years. I still have it, but to a lesser degree.

This summer, I was given gabapentin for great nerve pain. That took care of the anxiety, weirdly, after spending 11 years of living with chronic anxiety.I think that is why my waking up is better. When I wake up, I take it immediatly. Then about 45 minutes, I'm ok.
Hydromorphone for the pain also, well, that took care of depression. A combination of both is for me a life saver.

My doctor is in favor of taking opiates for depression, even with no pain, I would continue this regimen. Gail, after trying everything under the sun to treat Anxiety and depression, after wanting to die every day for the last 10 years or so, I thank God everyday for this miracle. Which we would not have found if it wasn't for the surgery due to cancer on my spine.

I know that you like to read, I would suggest "The opiate cure" by Bob Cochran. A lot of controversy over it. I talk about this often, I have to, it saved my sanity. With love,Gail

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Posted 10 November 2017 - 09:47 AM

Gail is right you can't swap directly but you can add the clonidine to your current list of meds. It will not only help with panic attacks and fear but also with the symptoms of valium withdrawal.

 

You are one tough lady. Keep us the good fight.


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Posted 12 November 2017 - 12:40 AM

Fishing hat , let me get this right !.

I stay on my current regime but add clonidine & start withdrawing my 15 mgs daily of Valium, using the scale you recommended for me .
Looking way ahead , to the time I've taken the last of the Valium.

Is it hard to withdraw from the clonidine?.

I don't think my integrative doctor would subscribe the pain killers that our dear Gail suggested!.

I'm also on Magnesium
Zinc
Q10
D3
B12
Bergamot

I've been feeling very sad lately & feel lost & unsure of my future .
A feeling of restlessness.

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 09:15 AM

"I stay on my current regime but add clonidine & start withdrawing my 15 mgs daily of Valium, using the scale you recommended for me."

You are correct. There is no withdrawal from clonidine. Coming of can cause the bp to elevate a little so I usually taper over about 2 weeks.

"I've been feeling very sad lately & feel lost & unsure of my future .
A feeling of restlessness. "

With what ou have been through I would be surprised if you didn't feel this way. Hang in there young lady.

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 09:20 AM

Wagtail, Gabapentin is a mood stabilizer as well. They use it also for neuropathic pain. And for epilepsy. I understand about hydromorphone. Love xxx



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