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Caution Webmd Is Eli Lilly
Started by thismoment, Jul 02 2014 06:55 PM
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 07:03 PM
The bastids.....
(Excellent website, BTW, I've bookmarked it for further reading.....)
From the article:
While Lilly is known for launching the SSRI antidepressant revolution with Prozac, Cymbalta does much of the heavy lifting now with worldwide sales of $3.075 billion in 2009.
Many remember Cymbalta as the drug 19-year-old healthy clinical volunteer Traci Johnson killed herself on, during trials on the Lilly campus in 2004–soon after FDA investigations into suicide/antidepressant links.
Traci had no depression history said Rev. Joel Barnaby, a spokesman for the Johnson family, who called Lilly’s decision to proceed with Cymbalta’s launch as scheduled "offensive" posturing.
Five others suicides occurred during Cymbalta clinical trials, said the FDA and twice the rate of suicide attempts were seen in women prescribed the drug for stress urinary incontinence–also patients with no depression to blame.
Others remember Cymbalta as the drug Carol Anne Gotbaum, daughter-in-law of New York City Public Advocate Betsy Gotbaum, was taking during her macabre death in police custody at the Phoenix’s Sky Harbor airport in 2007.
But now Lilly and WebMD are pushing Cymbalta for pain since it was approved for fibromyalgia in 2008. "Across cultures, patients who complain of pain tend to be depressed," says the 2002 article which calls WebMD and Lilly partners, a finding from a "huge international study by Prozac manufacturer Eli Lilly and Company."
(Excellent website, BTW, I've bookmarked it for further reading.....)
From the article:
While Lilly is known for launching the SSRI antidepressant revolution with Prozac, Cymbalta does much of the heavy lifting now with worldwide sales of $3.075 billion in 2009.
Many remember Cymbalta as the drug 19-year-old healthy clinical volunteer Traci Johnson killed herself on, during trials on the Lilly campus in 2004–soon after FDA investigations into suicide/antidepressant links.
Traci had no depression history said Rev. Joel Barnaby, a spokesman for the Johnson family, who called Lilly’s decision to proceed with Cymbalta’s launch as scheduled "offensive" posturing.
Five others suicides occurred during Cymbalta clinical trials, said the FDA and twice the rate of suicide attempts were seen in women prescribed the drug for stress urinary incontinence–also patients with no depression to blame.
Others remember Cymbalta as the drug Carol Anne Gotbaum, daughter-in-law of New York City Public Advocate Betsy Gotbaum, was taking during her macabre death in police custody at the Phoenix’s Sky Harbor airport in 2007.
But now Lilly and WebMD are pushing Cymbalta for pain since it was approved for fibromyalgia in 2008. "Across cultures, patients who complain of pain tend to be depressed," says the 2002 article which calls WebMD and Lilly partners, a finding from a "huge international study by Prozac manufacturer Eli Lilly and Company."
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 07:20 PM
It just makes you sick at your stomach.
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 09:51 PM
I wonder what the difference is between Prozac & Cymbalta !!! If Prozac was so successful why did they need to manufacture Cymbalta ... I know this is probably a BLONDE question , but bear with me I'm not well !.. Tongue in cheek ..:-)
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Posted 02 July 2014 - 10:12 PM
Eli Lilly developed Prozac (fluoxetine) first....so, it's called a "first generation" antidepressant....then, because the patent for Prozac was due to expire and Lilly needed a new "blockbuster drug", based on the testing and actual use results from the fluoxetine, Lilly went on to further refine that "recipe" ... and thus developed Cymbalta (duloxetine) .... which is thus a "second generation" antidepressant (SGA).....
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/11249587
And, from another article.... http://www.studymode...ta-1067797.html
"Eli Lilly and Company was often called “the Prozac Company” after the success of Prozac in 1988 however; the patent was soon to expire. New Antidepressant Team (NAT), a cross functional team of Lilly research and development (R&D) and marketing was formed by two colleagues at Lily – Mark Demitrack and Brett Schmidli, and later two additional members were asked to joined, Jim Lancaster and John Kaiser. The mission of the team was to find and develop a drug that would later replace Prozac. The core strategy of NAT was to concentrate and devote resources to only 5 Assets: “R-fluoxetine, OFC (olanzapine-fluoxetine combination), 5HT2 antagonist SSRI, Business Development Opportunities, and Cymbalta (duloxetine)” (Ofek & Laufer, p. 8). After a series of analysis and testing, Cymbalta was chosen by the team to replace Prozac."
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In my own summary, Lilly developed Cymbalta for financial reasons...they were about to lose the patent on Prozac, and thus all the huge revenues from its sales ... they needed a new revenue generator, a new "blockbuster" .... the company formed a "New Antidepressant Team" (NAT) to identify and develop that blockbuster ... and Cymbalta is the Frankenstein drug that resulted from the NAT efforts ....
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/11249587
And, from another article.... http://www.studymode...ta-1067797.html
"Eli Lilly and Company was often called “the Prozac Company” after the success of Prozac in 1988 however; the patent was soon to expire. New Antidepressant Team (NAT), a cross functional team of Lilly research and development (R&D) and marketing was formed by two colleagues at Lily – Mark Demitrack and Brett Schmidli, and later two additional members were asked to joined, Jim Lancaster and John Kaiser. The mission of the team was to find and develop a drug that would later replace Prozac. The core strategy of NAT was to concentrate and devote resources to only 5 Assets: “R-fluoxetine, OFC (olanzapine-fluoxetine combination), 5HT2 antagonist SSRI, Business Development Opportunities, and Cymbalta (duloxetine)” (Ofek & Laufer, p. 8). After a series of analysis and testing, Cymbalta was chosen by the team to replace Prozac."
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In my own summary, Lilly developed Cymbalta for financial reasons...they were about to lose the patent on Prozac, and thus all the huge revenues from its sales ... they needed a new revenue generator, a new "blockbuster" .... the company formed a "New Antidepressant Team" (NAT) to identify and develop that blockbuster ... and Cymbalta is the Frankenstein drug that resulted from the NAT efforts ....
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Posted 03 July 2014 - 01:32 PM
Didn't We-lie Lilly first seek FDA approval for stress urinary incontinence (sui) with Duloxetine? After it was denied, they were quickly able to get approval for depression after some human lab rats were studied in their supposed trials...read this somewhere, sure I have it bookmarked but don't know how to upload links to this site off my IPad:-{ Seems I have EMF syndrome (truly) & blow out everything electronically related every couple months, cell phones, computers etc...with the exception of this IPad (like a Timex, takes a licking & keeps on ticking).
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Posted 18 July 2014 - 03:17 PM
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One has to research the authors of all "scientific" articles to see who they're working for, and/or who funded the "study". I have found more than a few "scientific papers" whose authors are on some pharmaceutical company's payroll. It's really not surprising.
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