Went To See Psychiatrist And Can't Believe What He Suggested...
#61
Posted 13 September 2014 - 06:50 PM
I haven't researched these, but if I recall they have different modes of action ... omeprazole is usually taken in the morning, on an empty stomach ... I think Zantac is usually taken in the evening, as you are doing, after dinner ...
Is your acid reflux (GERD) that serious? Why not one or the other, rather than both?
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#62
Posted 13 September 2014 - 06:51 PM
Well I must admit I blew this one. I did not know it had withdrawal. I guess for a change I got lucky because I was on 1200 mg daily.
thank you for setting me straight FN. As usual, good work.
Research articles on gabapentin withdrawal;
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/11479399
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/24028370
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/21652784
Withdrawal info from US National Library of Medicine;
http://www.nlm.nih.g...ds/a694007.html
#63
Posted 13 September 2014 - 06:52 PM
It was prescribed to me in a very low dose of 100mg/ day for 3 days then 200mg/day for 3 days to 300mg/ day as a trial dose. This is 1/3 the recommended starting dose up to the typical starting single dose. I don't want any part of it at any dose.
I can't find the post or know who posted that brain zaps were due to seizure activity in your brain, but I read it here somewhere on this forum or maybe on the Cymbalta Hurts Worse Fb group. I just googled the topic and came up empty so I don't know where that person got the idea.
Just goes to show that I need to confirm the facts before I believe them as facts for myself.
I appreciate how most of you post links that support your statements on this forum.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
#64
Posted 13 September 2014 - 07:03 PM
I never have an appetite and when I make myself eat due to lack of energy I always get nauseous. At least that is how it was on the higher dose of cymbalta. Now that I'm not taking much cymbalta anymore, my reflux has improved. I still have the content of my stomach come up when I bend over, but with the acid reducers, it doesn't burn my throat.
I had an upper Gi scope done that didn't show any acid damage and no structural abnormalities down to my duodenum but I would need a barium drink with ex-rays to see how the food is going down (or up) and I can't afford to be exposed to any more radiation. Luckily for me this problem seems to be resolving itself. It least the burning reflux part. I still only have an appetite for ice cream and still get nauseous when I eat.
#65
Posted 13 September 2014 - 07:03 PM
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#67
Posted 13 September 2014 - 07:09 PM
Acid reflux is a reported, but "uncommon," side effect of Cymbalta ... mine was horrible while I was on the crap ... within a month of getting off the poison, the acid reflux faded to manageable ... I still have it a bit, but it's manageable with the "Summer's Eve" (ACV) and an occasional few days on omeprazole ...
My bet is that the lack of appetite and nausea when you eat is connected with the mish-mash of drugs you're on, the zig-zag Cymbalta tapering approach, etc ... once you get the key parts of the puzzle sorted and connected properly, the smaller pieces will either fall into place or fall away completely ...
#71
Posted 13 September 2014 - 07:20 PM
Then I get cocky and dropped 20mg at once to get things going quicker.... My bad
After my big drop I went back to 10% drop over the course of each week. I was my own guinea pig in finding a quicker way to get off the stuff. ...my experiment has failed. I guess I'm not going to win the Nobel peace prize this year either :/
#76
Posted 13 September 2014 - 07:29 PM
I will make this right but I'm going to try to go to 15mg/day and stay at that for a week with no dropping. Just 15mg a day for a whole week! And I won't let myself take it as a step back. Just a way to be more gentle with myself. I hope it helps.
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#80
Posted 13 September 2014 - 08:11 PM
On page 2 I posted the FDA warning....
#81
Posted 13 September 2014 - 08:15 PM
FH...
Interesting...
Can't believe original PCP had me on Crapalta, Lyrica, Trazodone and Omeprazole. I was switched to Duloxetine and Gabapentin but kept the other 2. Went off both the D and G cold turkey and very fast wean off of Trazodone about 4 months later.
Wow - that's scary
#82
Posted 13 September 2014 - 08:22 PM
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#85
Posted 13 September 2014 - 08:58 PM
I'm sick of this BS... Yes I recognize my mood swing!
This whole thing is guess work. What works for 1 person is too fast for another. I took my first dose of 30 mg of cymbalta on 12/15/06 to treat fibromyalgia and depression. The 30mg initial dose that was increased to 60mg the following week. In 2008 I needed to increase my dose to 80mg because I was still experiencing too much physical pain. I went from 80mg to 60mg in 2010 because I couldn't bring myself to pay 2 separate $60 copayments. Insurance wouldn't cover 4X 20mg/ day so I deeded a 60mg Rx and a 20mg Rx at $60 each. I have been on 60mg since then. When it came out in generic form my copayments went down to $50. I was not happy. We switched insurance companies in May this year. My prescriber had to jump through hoops to got this and another Rx, modafinil, pre authorized again. It was denied and she had to file an appeal. During that time, I was forced off my meds for several days. I called the insurance company myself to see how long the appeal would take. The person that answered the phone said that they received the appeal and it would take 3 weeks for them to review the appeal. I demanded that I speak with the manager and explained that I couldn't function at all without these prescriptions. The appeal went through that afternoon.
While I was forced into cold turkey withdrawal, I realized just how poisonous this stuff must me to my body. And decided then that I would get off this stuff. It has been 4 months. I realize that tis is not very long for most of you but for me it feels like forever.
I know my mental health has improved since I started to taper off this poison. I take showers at least 2 or 3 times a week as opposed to once every 2 to 3 weeks.(gross!) I occasionally know what day of the week it is! And I have more feelings (I'm bitchier now that I care about things lol. For example I say no to things that I would have said "I don't care" to)
I don't know why I needed to write this in a post other than to let you know that I'm old (48) and have been on this for a long time. It is to be expected that I will have a difficult time discontinuing this drug. I need to be patient.
#87
Posted 13 September 2014 - 09:16 PM
I have faith that there is a doctor out there somewhere that will be able to figure out why I went from a person that could and did work in my yard building stone walls and digging holes to a person that can't lift a water bottle with my dominant hand in the course of 6 years.
I want my old life back
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#88
Posted 14 September 2014 - 07:24 AM
But I'm off the Cymbalta now, FH ... are you saying still no omeprazole for me/others post-Cymbalta ...
sorry, my crapalta brain must be kicking in big-time tonight
If you are off the ssri/snri then there is no problem. This is a serious drug interaction only. Sorry about the confusion, As my dad use to say. 'Don;t listen to what I say, just listen to what I mean." lol
I tried to give one of your posts a "like". It turned around and said I was out of 'positive votes''!!
That would have been my first 'like!1 I am soooo confused. What the heck is a 'positive vote'?
I am going back to bed and getting up again....
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#89
Posted 14 September 2014 - 11:10 AM
Well, dear one, I've got to say here that I disagree with this decision. Just the fact that you say "an arbitrary 50 beads" is enuf to get me worried.
I think that you are guaranteeing yourself continued "hellacious side-effects." And, you are increasing the risk of permanent damage from your "arbitrary" actions... this is just a modified version of "PRNing" your meds. It is imprudent and risky. You have so many other health issues and meds, you're continuing your history of adding to your issues, not reducing them.
This is completely your choice, your responsibility. You're ignoring the excellent dosing / bead counting advice from the experts here... who've been through the hell, and have spent a lot of time working out the bead counting process and how to use it.
Please, just remember, you can stop what you're doing/how you're doing it at any point and change to what has been suggested to you as safe and prudent.
You have me very, very worried at this point.
#90
Posted 14 September 2014 - 12:11 PM
First suggestion was to go back to the last level that I was stable at. With all my variables of meds and medical conditions, I have not been "stable" in the past. This is why I decided to discontinue in the first place.
Next suggestion was 20mg. I have been taking less than 20mg for 2 weeks.
I just looked for the list of how many beads I have been taking each day during my taper. I can't find it! I hate this house. Everyone screws with my things. I'm disorganized enough without having people sabbatoge my efforts at getting organized!
I had filled my weekly dispenser with 50 beads/day for the next 6 days. Now that I can't find my taper history, I have taken your advise and added 32 beads for today and 31 to the next 3 days and 30 to the following 2 days. This equals 82 beads today which is slightly more than 15mg
Beads/ Mg
320 / 60
240 / 45
160 / 30
80 / 15
32 / 6
Thank you for you help. I realize that you are investing a lot of yor time helping me sort this thing out and I really do appreciate it.
I just can't help feeling like I'm taking two steps back. Then I remind myself that I took 3 steps forward when I needed to take 1 step at a time.
Thanks for the perspective.
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