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Posted 16 July 2014 - 11:56 PM
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just read the "mad in america" article. it is pretty scary, especially the idea that agitation symptoms may return or first manifest years after getting off SSRI's. i realize shipko's info is anecdotal, but wht i see time after time is people going through withdrawal who describe many of the same symptoms. again, as has been pointed out multiple times on this board, those of us who were taking C and related anti-d's for depression are often told by our p-docs, "that's the depression coming back." i get how they could come to that conclusion. HOWEVER, when those with no history of depression who were taking C for pain have the exact same symptoms when in withdrawal - there's something more there than depression relapse.
i am very interested in his comparison of tardive (late or delayed onset) dyskenisia (movement disorder) with anti-psychotics to what he has observed in those on ssri's or in withdrawal and refers to as tardive akasthesia (agitated anxious/depressed state). that sure describes a major complaint on this forum and others. i've seen TD in action and its well known that once it starts the damage is done. he also mentioned that manufacturers themselves report TD as a rare side effect of an ssri. i've seen that in literature. while i am not aware of any cases of TD as a side effect of ssri's maybe they need to look into the idea of TA as well. i get the impression the latter term is not in the medical lexicon at this point. i guess that they can't ignore TD - its pretty obvious with the cases which are so bad the symptoms mimic the jerky movements of tourette's.
he doesn't mentioned snri's, but its not hard to extend the connection to the obvious.
i also appreciate that he isn't making a blanket judgement against the drugs and recognizes their benefts. certainly much more research must be done to gather the quantity of data required for conclusive results. as shipko said, its about "informed consent"at this point because we don't have the data.
here's hoping we are the lucky ones who survive and move on
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