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#181 Carleeta

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Posted 06 October 2014 - 08:48 PM

FiveNotions, thank you very much, I see where his answer was 'no' to these critical questions. Just wondering if he knew or didn't know. There are so many conflicting stories on CNN, until a few minutes ago when they interviewed the compound where he was in WA. This was the first time I've seen/heard something concrete..

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 07:26 AM

startling graphic / map ....

Global threat of Ebola: From the US to China, scientists plot spread of deadly disease across the world from its West African hotbed

A team of scientists at Northeastern University in Boston have used air travel information to predict where the deadly Ebola virus could reach in the next three weeks
Daily Mail (UK), 10/5/2014
http://www.dailymail...pread-here.html

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 10:59 AM

Spanish Hospital Staff Stage Protest, Demand More Ebola Information
http://www.nbcnews.c...-15a-et-n220171
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Nurse In Spain Gets Ebola, Officials Say 'We Followed Protocol'
NPR Blog, 10/7/2014
http://www.npr.org/b...llowed-protocol
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[Connecticut] Governor Declares Cautionary Public Health Emergency Over Ebola
http://www.nbcconnec...lFlowFB_CTBrand
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Spanish nurse’s Ebola infection blamed on substandard equipment
Staff at Madrid’s Carlos III hospital say protective suits do not meet WHO standards as second nurse undergoes tests for virus
http://www.theguardi...-positive-spain

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 12:31 PM

Pentagon Briefing, 10/7/2014
General: Some U.S. military personnel heading to Africa will have direct contact with Ebola patients

Gen. David Rodriguez, commander of U.S. Africa Command, also said the U.S.mission could last a year, far longer than the quick effort many expected
http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1966142

FTA: "Rodriguez said the service members who will staff the labs will have special training to deal with any biological hazard. If they are sickened they will be isolated and sent on special planes to secure medical facilities in the U.S. for treatment..."

"The Pentagon previously has said the risk of infection to American service members is relatively low since U.S. troops won’t be taking direct care of Ebola patients."
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Link to Full Briefing, C-Span -- watch Gen. Rodriguez's body language, and the fact that he's reading from a text, not looking at the reporters ... very atypical of a senior military officer's briefing style ... he looks nervous and even stumbles over the words he's reading ... also, the briefing started almost 1/2 hour late ... not SOP for the military, esp. the brass at the Pentagon ...

Defense Department Briefing on Ebola Outbreak
http://www.c-span.or...-briefing-ebola

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 12:41 PM

Meanwhile, here's the prez's schedule for today ... yes, this is OT, but really, does he even care about what's actually happening in this country, in the world?

Tuesday’s Obama Schedule [10/7/2014]
http://www.whitehousedossier.com/

10:00 am || Receives the Presidential Daily Briefing
12:30 pm || Departs White House
1:40 pm || Arrives New York City
2:25 pm || Attends a DNC fundraiser; private residence, New York
4:10 pm || Attends a DNC fundraiser; New York
6:40 pm || Attends a fundraiser for Senate Democrats; private residence, Greenwich, Connecticut
8:05 pm || Departs New York
9:15 pm || Arrives White House


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Posted 11 October 2014 - 11:14 AM

Yipeeeeee, they are now starting screening at the airports for Ebola. It's about time. Looks like it might take a bit longer to fly these days, although it will be well worth it....today, or should I say this weekend I need to get some studying in because I received an email of some new changes in protocol....hmmmmmm

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Posted 11 October 2014 - 12:46 PM

Thanks for that update, Carleeta!

 

It sure took 'em long enough. I want you put in charge, shit would get done, and pronto!

 

I heard obama want to create an "Ebola Czar" .... now there's a job title ... and job ... :o.


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 10:27 AM

2nd person in U.S. tests positive for Ebola
'Breach in protocol' resulted in infection, CDC director says
KSPR-ABC, 10/12/2014
http://www.kspr.com/...051714_29075742

Texas nurse tests positive for Ebola, would be 1st Ebola transmission in U.S.
CNN, 10/12/2014
http://www.cnn.com/2...ml?c=homepage-t

FTA: "The nurse was involved in Duncan's second visit to the hospital, when he was admitted for treatment, and was wearing protective gear as prescribed by the CDC: gown, gloves, mask and shield. . ."

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 10:38 AM

CNN Live Briefing (today)
Nurse [confirmed infected] was not one of the 48 people being monitored
http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.cnn.com/2....html?hpt=hp_t1

Pay special attention to Dr Varga, beginning @ about 10 min. 10 sec..... solid info, he's telling a lot of hard truth ...
 
Better link to earlier live briefing ... worth listening to in its entirety ... these officials look and sound freaked out.

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 11:17 AM

[Hospital] Records chronicle how Ebola kills
Associated Press, 10/11/2014
http://bigstory.ap.o...duncans-decline

AP somehow got ahold of the hospital records, chronological record of his symptoms and treatment ... fascinating and concerning ...

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 11:24 AM

Now this is getting personal ... ;)

Ebola threatens chocolate
Politico, 10/12/2014
http://www.politico....cts-111809.html


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 11:30 AM

Cities, states scramble after Dallas's Ebola missteps expose planning gaps
Yahoo News, 10/11/2014
http://news.yahoo.co...1--finance.html

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 11:42 AM

Had an idea this was happening as I was requested to read up on new protocols by tomorrow, which I did yesterday. Heard on CNN the discussion concerning added gloves one glove over another. Many times in the lab when testing a variety of specimens (not knowing whether they were infectious or not) and a positive blood (our blood machine would sound off, indicating this particular blood was positive and needed further texting) would need more testing which required me to use a hypodermic needle to draw blood from a blood bottle and place drops of this blood on plates and slides for further examination. Myself, I would double up on my gloves (my preference) when I knew a blood was positive (positive blood does not mean it is contagious, although it could be) to insure safety for myself and others around me from blood splatter. Once I was done with preparing the new plates and slides they were then covered. I then removed my first and second set of gloves, disposed of them properly, put on a new pair and left my station to bring these plates and slides to the appropriate area for further examination. I don't see why they are discussing, what they believe to be a new approach, on TV as another possibility for further protocol...This has been around for health care workers for a while.....just make it a mandatory step in er's,...

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 01:18 PM

Carleeta, are these the CDC Guidances / Protocols on which you're being tested? I'm finding them fascinating and informative ... especially the last group (#10), on protection for health care workers and first-responders ... good, practical knowledge ...

Top 10 Ebola Response Planning Tips: Ebola Readiness Self-Assessment for State and Local Public Health Officials
http://www.cdc.gov/v...tips-top10.html

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 02:20 PM

FiveNotions, yes, all info is exactly what I am studying, and also what CDC guidelines refer to NYS. All this info was on my testing today...especially extensive testing for laboratory protocol, Each day for one to two weeks I need to takes a numbers of test. They will be repetitive with word changes.. need to know all lab protocols; safety and PPP (personal protective equipment) procedures, inside and out.....Also, being tested on how to handle specimens for testing whether we know this specimen is under investigation or not, and where we need to report our findings and where this specimen will go after its been tested....

There is much to absorb and put into action. Each of us have a booklet and need to keep it with us at the lab....All lab workers need to follow everything in our manual...

What we all discussed on conference the other day was we all need to act as though our specimens could be positive, therefore in the event a specimen is positive, we have taken every safety precaution and are ready to act upon a positive result. If positive we will have proper channels to report to......

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 03:20 PM

oh my goodness Carleeta ... that's a massive amount of information to digest and be tested on in such a short period of time! :o

 

How'd the test today go? I bet you are ready for a relaxing evening!


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Posted 12 October 2014 - 04:22 PM

Yes its a lot...lol lol lol....although they are multiple choice, true and false. .. Most of this reading is no different than everything I needed to know every 6 months and had to pass....this time there are a few more added protocols due do Ebola.....New equipment has been added and new disposal possibilites....I received a 98....lol lol.....Most importantly is the fact flu season is approaching our area ( highest in February), many hospitals and labs are usually busy this time of year, although it's expected to have a higher volume of testing do to symptoms are similar in both cases...it's a very good possibility I'll be going in because of this testing....

My son flew out today for a conference on equipment which will be arriving at his lab....he's now on his connecting flight to his destination...He needs to be there tomorrow and should be home on Wednesday. Although he was to make this conference before this ebola broke out, he's certain there will be talks about computers changes in his lab....

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 10:50 AM

Note: the US company, NewLink Genetics, is located in Ames, Iowa. Bet their stock share value skyrockets....

Canadian Ebola Vaccine Trials Begin
Experimental Ebola vaccine developed by Public Health Agency of Canada to be tested in humans
Canadian News Wire, 10/13/2014
http://www.newswire....ne-trials-begin

FTA: OTTAWA, Oct.13, 2014 /CNW/ - The Honourable Rona Ambrose, Minister of Health, today announced the launch of Phase 1 clinical trials for Canada's Ebola vaccine (VSV-EBOV) at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research in Silver Spring, Maryland, United States.

The Phase 1 clinical trial will test the vaccine on a small group of people to assess its safety, determine the appropriate dosage and identify any side effects. Canada has supplied 20 vials of the experimental vaccine for use in the trial.

Scientists at the Public Health Agency of Canada's National Microbiology Laboratory (NML) developed the vaccine, which has shown great promise in animal research. This vaccine could be an important tool in helping to control the ongoing Ebola outbreak in West Africa.

The Canadian government owns the intellectual property associated with this vaccine and has licensed the rights to NewLink Genetics through its wholly owned subsidiary BioProtection Systems. The U.S. Defense Threat Reduction Agency is working with BioProtection Systems to further develop the product for use in humans.

This testing will assess whether the vaccine is safe for use in people and determine the appropriate dose necessary to provide immunity. Outcomes of this Phase 1 trial are expected in December 2014.

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 10:53 AM

Liberia Ebola Workers Strike as 80% Go Without Safety Equipment
Bloomberg, 10/13/2014
http://www.bloomberg...uipment-1-.html
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Here's a 2 min. 53 sec. video ... no wonder they've got such a massively high infection rate for health care workers ...

CNN puts a GoPro [video cam] on a Nurse in Hospital in Liberia Full of Dying Ebola Patients
http://www.surenews....tal-in-liberia/
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Interesting facts for comparison:

New Zealand and Liberia both have around 4.5 million inhabitants (2013, source: wikipedia)

New Zealand had 14,3330 actively practicing doctors in 2011. (source: Medical Council of New Zealand, http://www.nzdoctor....y-results.aspx)

Liberia had less than 200 doctors before the ebola outbreak, and now has less than 50, as of August 2014.

“Less than 200 doctors existed in this country of 4 million people prior to this epidemic. After the outbreak in March of this year, that number plummeted to only 50 doctors.”.
"Ebola Outbreak: Missionary Doctor Tells Congress 95% Of Doctors Fled Liberia," International Business Times, 8/7/2104, http://www.ibtimes.c...iberia-1652322)
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Posted 13 October 2014 - 11:19 AM

Many flights from Ebola-hit countries bypass special screening
Most flights headed for Dallas will sidestep scrutiny
Market Watch, 10/10/2014
http://www.marketwat...=MW_latest_news

At certain airports, it appears more than 6% of flights from the worst-hit West African countries — Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia — will bypass the extra screening process. These include Houston’s George Bush Intercontinental, Boston’s Logan Airport, Philadelphia International and Detroit’s Wayne County airport.

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Posted 13 October 2014 - 08:28 PM

Nigeria’s hard-earned lesson for quashing Ebola
Financial Times, 10/13/2014
http://www.ft.com/cm...l#axzz3G3ljJwWv

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 12:04 AM

A member in another discussion forum I follow posted this message... what does it mean, Carleeta, in light of the fact that they are now monitoring 70 people on staff at the hospital where Duncan died and the nurse, Nina Pham, is being treated for ebola? Is this thing worse than we're being told?

Here's the Post from the other forum, with a link to a copy of the actual email this person received, to prove the veracity of what she's saying:
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As many of you know I am a nurse and over my 15 years in the field I have worked for various travel registry agencies. Today I received the following email...

Link to tinypic.com: http://tinypic.com/v...?pic=v6u55e&s=8

Dallas Area Needs ICU and ER Nurses to assist Ebola Nursing Needs

From Kelly Davenport
To (BLOCKED OUT FOR MY OWN PRIVACY) Today at 12:21 PM

Good Afternoon,
We received the below email from one of our staffing sources. This is a very difficult need to ask for assistance for from all of you I know. Nurses are often on the front lines when it comes to new and frightening diseases as you would be in this case. This might also be an opportunity to study the process of this disease and help to stop its spread throughout the U.S. Please read below and if you would consider this assignment please let us know.

Hello Everyone,
As you all know we have a situation in Dallas that is escalating in response to Ebola. The facilities there are in desperate need for ED and ICU nurses. At this point we do not have additional information in regards to rates, housing, etc. At this point we need to know of your nurses have a compact licensure and would be willing to go if needed. Please let us know as soon as possible.

Thank You,
Kelly & Leanne

Kelly Davenport LPN
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Posted 14 October 2014 - 07:15 AM

Ebola research: Fever not a surefire sign of infection
LA Times, 10/12/2014
http://www.latimes.c...ory.html#page=1

Ebola study finds that in nearly 13% of 'confirmed and probable' cases tracked, there was no fever

Some experts say the assumption that Ebola spreads only when an infected person has fever should be reassessed

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Posted 14 October 2014 - 09:42 AM

This is really disturbing...

 

I feel that the public is not being told all that is going on with this disease

 

What info, if any, can you add Carleeta?  


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Posted 14 October 2014 - 10:28 AM

Any additional info and insights you could give us, Carleeta? Have you and the other professionals in your field who are now being trained been told not to share all you know, because it might panic the public?
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WHO: 10,000 new Ebola cases per week [in Africa] could be seen
Breitbart News, 10/14/2014
http://www.breitbart...66a6b6020d2419d

FTA: LONDON (AP) — West Africa could see up to 10,000 new Ebola cases a week within two months, the World Health Organization said Tuesday, also confirming the death rate in the current outbreak has risen to 70 percent.

WHO assistant director-general Dr. Bruce Aylward gave the figures during a news conference in Geneva. Previously, WHO had estimated the Ebola mortality rate was at around 50 percent.

Aylward said the new rate confirmed it was "a high mortality disease," and that the U.N. health agency was still focused on trying to get sick people isolated and provide treatment as early as possible.

He told reporters that if the world's response to the Ebola crisis isn't stepped up within 60 days, "a lot more people will die" and that health workers will be stretched even further dealing with the spiraling numbers of cases.
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Posted 14 October 2014 - 11:26 AM

Johns Hopkins University: Ebola Forum [webcast]
10/14/2014
http://www.jhsph.edu...um/webcast.html

Key participant: Michael T. Osterholm, Ph.D., M.P.H., is a prominent public health scientist and a nationally recognized biosecurity expert in the United States.
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Panel quotes (rough):
‘Come to expect the unexpected’ [regarding information on Ebola].

‘Expect many black swans [unforeseen direct and indirect consequences] from this current crisis.’

‘Let us acknowledge that we are making this up as we go. Do not be apprehensive of saying “I do no know”.’
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Posted 14 October 2014 - 11:49 AM

Yes, I can talk about my knowledge of Ebola and other diseases.  I cannot talk about individuals who have specimens in the lab, this would be a HIPA violation.  

 

As far as I know about Ebola and it spreading from one individual to another is this:  They are extremely sick, should have a fever with vomiting/and or diarrhea. The vomit, diarrhea, and secretion of body fluids is what needs to come into contact with open areas of another's body.  This could be through open cuts, nose, mouth, and etc.  The fever itself will not identify ebola due to so many other diseases which are associated with the same symptom (Flu, Malaria, and etc).   The best detection they have to air flights is to try and check everyone's temperature, and ask questions as to where they just came from and if there were exposed to an ebola patient, or area.  Although, still at this point, it cannot be spread unless the patient is extremely sick and secreting fluids (this could also come from a sneeze or mucus ).


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 06:22 PM

 

as per Fivenotion's suggestion i am cross posting this here from the positive events thread, i was responding to one of carleeta's posts … our medical correspondent ;-)

 

Carleeta, on 16 Oct 2014 - 5:23 PM, said:snapback.png

Did positively feel a bit better today....submitted my chart to the lab today. Had more lectures on protective lab coats, shields, gloves, and etc. One special lecture was with other departments of the hospital and all protocols, as well as entering different parts of the hospitals. Our phlebotomists (ones who draw blood from patients) and our carriers (ones who drive specimens to our lab from other hospitals, clinics, and doctor's offices) have to protection themselves and others when arriving at the lab and before they leave. Many hospitals around the country have been stepping their protocols up as high as they can. The nurses are positively doing a great job of speaking out!

 

 

so does this mean that protocols for handling blood and other body fluids are getting tighter in general, or just when you are testing for ebola or handling specimens known to be infected? 

 

what is your opinion about the nurse who chose to fly even though she was told to "self monitor"? even if she wasn't contagious at the time of her flight, i was stunned to learn she'd choose to take a flight. i am gonna guess that she bought the ticket prior to even treating the ebola patient, i know that she called the CDC and some linked gave her the okay even though she had a "low grade" fever. i would think anyone who is being monitored, "self" or otherwise, would be provided guidelines if not restrictions on where they could go. i realize that if there are no symptoms you're not contagious, but for 21 days i wouldn't even go to the store, i'd ask a friend/family to pick something up for  me. i'm gonna guess that no employer wants you to come in to work if you are under "monitored" status. 

 

as for the airlines, they better not dare tell people suspected of being exposed that they can't get a full refund. that would keep people from self reporting. 


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 06:36 PM

Nina Pham, the first nurse to contract it, has been / is being moved here to DC, NIH, sometime today.
http://www.cnn.com/2...bola/index.html
 
FTA: "The next to leave the hospital was Nina Pham, on Thursday evening. Texas Health Presbyterian said that her transfer to the National Institutes of Health hospital just north of Washington, D.C. is being done, in part, because of concerns about the limited number of qualified people on-hand to care for her.

"We believe that transferring Nina to the ... NIH is the right decision," the hospital said. "With many of the medical professionals who would normally staff the intensive care unit sidelined for continuous monitoring, it is in the best interest of the hospital employees, nurses, physicians and the community to give the hospital an opportunity to prepare for what comes next."

Still, the Ebola crisis in the United States is not confined to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital."
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Also, got an email from my cousin, the nurse in Portland, today. Both she and her partner are nurses, and have done various medical mission trips in the past, eye surgery in Jamaica, all sorts of neat stuff. They're also signed up with an agency that does travel placement for nurses around the country (I guess like that agency in the cross-post I made above.)

Anyway, they've been contacted by their medical mission group (volunteer) and the agency about taking on ebola work. The medical mission group asked them to volunteer for Africa. The agency is offering them huge, absolutely huge, amounts of money to go down to Dallas.

Cousin said they said "no way" to both. They're going to stay at their hospitals in the Portland area.

They are, however, very concerned about two things: Neither of their hospitals is equipped to treat ebola, and, Portland is one of the US airports that is not doing arrival screening ... so travelers coming to the US from ebola countries are now circumventing the airports that have announced screening, and are heading to the ones that aren't, like Portland.


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Posted 16 October 2014 - 06:38 PM

 

 

as per Fivenotion's suggestion i am cross posting this here from the positive events thread, i was responding to one of carleeta's posts … our medical correspondent ;-)

 

Carleeta, on 16 Oct 2014 - 5:23 PM, said:snapback.png

 

 

so does this mean that protocols for handling blood and other body fluids are getting tighter in general, or just when you are testing for ebola or handling specimens known to be infected? 

 

what is your opinion about the nurse who chose to fly even though she was told to "self monitor"? even if she wasn't contagious at the time of her flight, i was stunned to learn she'd choose to take a flight. i am gonna guess that she bought the ticket prior to even treating the ebola patient, i know that she called the CDC and some linked gave her the okay even though she had a "low grade" fever. i would think anyone who is being monitored, "self" or otherwise, would be provided guidelines if not restrictions on where they could go. i realize that if there are no symptoms you're not contagious, but for 21 days i wouldn't even go to the store, i'd ask a friend/family to pick something up for  me. i'm gonna guess that no employer wants you to come in to work if you are under "monitored" status. 

 

as for the airlines, they better not dare tell people suspected of being exposed that they can't get a full refund. that would keep people from self reporting. 

 

Apologizes, I answered under the positive post.  Didn't realize...





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