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#121 Howtostoppropperly

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 09:45 AM

I'm pretty sure it's withdrawal because I did eye tests on these floaters in may and all tests were okay back then. 

Appointment made on the 22th of november. I go for the laser treatment so the floaters are gone

 

thanks for the support G en FH :-)


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Posted 27 October 2016 - 10:13 AM

Great. Hang in there and let us know how the surgery goes.


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 07:41 AM

I'm going back to 25mg as from tomorrow because today I'm all anxious for no reason :-(

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 08:19 AM

Good move! Keep us posted.

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 09:02 AM

htsp,

 

Please stay at that dosage until you are stabilzed before you start dropping again.

This may take a week or two, but this is not a race and there is no time line.

 

Please remember to be good to yourself...


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 09:59 AM

I really hate it...#reallyfrustrated

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 10:03 AM

You were used to going down by 5 mg at a time and tried 10 instead.

It just did not work. I understand your frustration, it's temporary HTS! Be cool.

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Posted 28 October 2016 - 11:51 AM

Drops almost always get smaller as you go further down in dose. eventually you may be dropping 1 or 2 mg every 2 or 3 weeks. As the girls said this is all about time and patience.


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Posted 28 October 2016 - 05:31 PM

thanks guys, it does really mean a lot to me! I'm really a strong personality but I do not know if I can do it... I still hate it though, fuck them all!

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 04:00 AM

went back to 25mg and for stabilization now... hope that the anxiety and vision will approve fast now.

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 08:21 AM

Hi HTP,

I don't know about the vision, as for the anxiety, that should resolve itself.
Still in Belgium?

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Posted 29 October 2016 - 11:33 AM

yes still in Belgium till the 7th. Yesterday evening we went Karting with pro karts on the track in Genk. what an adrenaline boost was that!

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Posted 31 October 2016 - 03:55 AM

it's the second day in a row that I wake up and that my conditions are stable and normal. I will take the 25mg till the end of this week and will try go down to 22.5mg.

As for the 5 htp, I take 2x 100mg a day and I can say that I'm not anxious.

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Posted 31 October 2016 - 06:23 AM

Wow HTS, that is good to hear! It's nice of you to update, thanks!

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Posted 31 October 2016 - 08:21 AM

Great, you will make it.


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Posted 31 October 2016 - 08:29 AM

I will make it but I have to go slow that's obvious... I will go in steps of 2.5mg in stead of 5 or 10mg from now on.

keep up the faith guys!!

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Posted 02 November 2016 - 11:55 AM

Till today I feel almost great (except of my floaters) so this weekend I will step onto 22,5mg.
 

My sleep is strong, my cold feelings are almost gone, my pinchy skin isn't getting me down...

My sporting behaviour is pretty energetic again alltough my strenght isn't there anymore  :rolleyes: ...

 

Let's kick that ass!
 


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Posted 02 November 2016 - 01:10 PM

Sounds like time for a step down on dose to me. I wish you smooth sailing.


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Posted 02 November 2016 - 01:40 PM

You make it sound easy, I hope it continues the same way.

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Posted 03 November 2016 - 02:54 AM

Today my vision is blurry... pffffff...

I will try for 20mg as from this weekend guys. let's cross our fingers.


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Posted 03 November 2016 - 11:11 AM

My vision is making me depressed today... Tomorrow I will be going to an optician.


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Posted 03 November 2016 - 11:52 AM

Happy to hear that your vision will be checked tomorrow.  I hope the results are good, but I know this will take a lot off your mind.

 

Good luck and please let us know the results!!


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Posted 03 November 2016 - 02:39 PM

I think that the 5 htp supplements are causing the blurred vision. I think I have to stop taking it. what so you guys think?

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Posted 03 November 2016 - 03:34 PM

Hi, take a look at the word game, Fishinghat posted today info and references about 5HTP. Not read it yet but for sure good info.

Down to 20 maƱana, you know the drill, should it be intolerable then you know what to do!

Always interesting to read you and your updates. Moscow on the seventh or am I lost in Wonderland again?

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Posted 03 November 2016 - 04:26 PM

Hi HTSP
 
If you look at that literature I posted on 5HTP you will see a warning about a condition called Eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome (EMS). While rare this is not that uncommon in people who do not properly use the drug. If due to dietary or metabolic reasons your body does not process enough 5htp then the development of anxiety is likely. Obviously taking 5htp brings some relief in these cases BUT 5htp has a fairly long biological half life so once your deficiency is taken care of you can build up excess in your brain which can develop into EMS. As you can see below (Compliments of Web.md) blurred vision is one of the early signs of EMS. Strong reflexes, dilated pupil sand lack of coordination are also early symptoms. The correct procedure for use of this supplement is to very slowly ramp up dose until you achieve maximum benefit. After a few days begin to very very slowly reduce dose until a minimum successful dose is found. Unluckily most work up to the most effective dose and stay there. Eventually excess builds up in the brain causing the EMS.

 

I am going to start a thread, probably this evening on 5htp and a couple of other related supplements.

Rare: Eosinophilia-myalgia syndrome and Neurological problems:
Abnormally sensitive reflexes.
Blurred vision.
Dilated pupils.
Loss of muscle coordination.

See physician always: Neurological problems and muscle pain.

See physician if severe: Diarrhea, difficulty breathing, irregular heartbeat, loss of appetite, nausea, and vomiting.


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Posted 03 November 2016 - 04:42 PM

FH, do you recommend to stop it immediately then?

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Posted 03 November 2016 - 05:33 PM

I would not drop it as that would drop your serotonin levels and make your withdrawal worse. First of all, what dose are you on?


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Posted 04 November 2016 - 03:27 AM

I was taking 2x 100mg a day (morning and after lunch) for a week. Because I'm only taling it for a week, I quit as from this morning.

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Posted 04 November 2016 - 08:06 AM

Ordered glasses this morning. I have an eye with -0.5 and an eye with +1.0.


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Posted 04 November 2016 - 08:14 AM

Great!

 

Does your eye Dr. feel that this will help your floaters?





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