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#271 Ozgun

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 01:53 PM

Can we plan a cross taper for me? Cymbalta to Paxil? Attacks proved to be uncontrollable :(

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 02:27 PM

What is your current dose of Cymbalta and what level of Paxil does he want you on?

What cross taper did you try for the "Attacks proved to be uncontrollable".

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 03:38 PM

No cross taper. 10 mg of Cymbalta to 5 to none, then 5, 10, 15 and 20 mg of Paxil. I took clonazepam for the attack, didn't do much.

5 HTP sounded nice?

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 04:08 PM

There is a lot of hype about 5HTP - granted it might be the brand that I bought, but it didn't do much, and what it did do, only lasted for around 2-3 hours. I have bought a well-researched book and currently reading through it to get the low down. 

 

Worth a shot, but I would go with a reputable brand with plenty of reviews. That way if it doesn't work, the quality of the pills can't be blamed...


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Posted 15 March 2019 - 04:22 PM

"No cross taper. 10 mg of Cymbalta to 5 to none, then 5, 10, 15 and 20 mg of Paxil. I took clonazepam for the attack, didn't do much.

5 HTP sounded nice? "

Ahhh, I see. So you are already on the 20 mg of Paxil. No 5htp with the Paxil. Too much of a risk of serotonin syndrome. Are you having more problems with anxiety or depression? What are your symptoms right now.

Things like l-theanine, clonidine and/or hydroxyzine can help with the anxiety. The last two are by prescription. Sorry to take so long to reply, my new hot water heater went out this morning and I have been bouncing back and forth getting that repaired and I had a screwed up prescription so I spent around 2 hours on the phone raising cane to get that fixed.

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 04:54 PM

I am not sure that 5-HTP would be the way to go for anxiety anyway. Dopa or gaba is more closely suited, but again, whenever aminos are called into the balance, the others can suffer to then be out of balance. The key is balance rather than quantity, which is why it is such a minefield...

 

Hope you got all the stuff sorted out Hat. The last thing you want is the wrong medication when the boiler packs up on you!


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Posted 15 March 2019 - 05:13 PM

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You m ight want to look at these 3 posts beginning with the first one I linked to. It may give you some ideas.

https://www.cymbalta...n-zaps/?p=76387

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 03:48 AM

Sorry to take so long to reply, my new hot water heater went out this morning and I have been bouncing back and forth getting that repaired and I had a screwed up prescription so I spent around 2 hours on the phone raising cane to get that fixed.

That's an adventure :)

Change of plans:
7 days of Duloxetine 10 Paroxetine 5 (I'm beginning here actually)
7 days of Duloxetine 5 Paroxetine 10
Rest is Paroxetine 15 and another appointment.
Clonazepam 1 mg throughout.

Took 5-HTP yesterday night (10 mg Duloxetine only) and that got rid of my anxiety?

As of the last 4 days, my body is tense, I'm crying, I feel anxious, angry. Depressed and anxious at the same time, maybe? Sounds like withdrawal to me.

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 07:20 AM

That sounds like as good a start as any. You will continue to have these symptoms until you have been on the Paxil for a few weeks. Hang in there.


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Posted 16 March 2019 - 01:42 PM

How long did the effects of the 5-HTP last? And what does did you take?


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Posted 16 March 2019 - 04:37 PM

I took 100 mg in a panic. Helped the panic at first but became too much for my stomach, so I threw up. I was very calm rest of the night.

Think I’d do well with, like, 20 mg of it.

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 06:22 PM

Ooooh - that is often the reaction to having too much in the system - please be careful. Everyone is different, but it only takes that little bit too much.... just like I found out when the wife tried to make me some Kratom. Twenty minutes in and I was really paranoid, but it only lasted about 15 minutes and then I was so unbelievably relaxed!!! But I am sticking to my usual dose.


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Posted 17 March 2019 - 08:08 AM

Remember the teaspoon teacup rule.

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 08:56 AM

Remember the teaspoon teacup rule.

 

Not familiar with that one Hat - can you elaborate?


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Posted 17 March 2019 - 09:26 AM

Hello Scrat,

Seven teaspoon, you are given that to make it till you go for sleep.

Example: getting up, make your bed, wash and get ready for the day. That's one or two teaspoon gone.

Five left. You have a panic attack, that's at least three teaspoon.

We have two left. Not much when it's 2pm. A couple worker asks you to do a part of her work.
Well, you can't,, you need to preserve the 2 left.

Go back home in crazy traffic, and voila, no more teaspoon, no more energy.

Take care of your spoons!

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 09:56 AM

Ah - and there was me thinking it was something to do with measuring out my doses!!

 

That is a good way to consider these things. And I am often known for not abiding by this and giving myself a break - I do have a habit of pushing myself to prove that I can do things.


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Posted 17 March 2019 - 10:01 AM

Actually Gail is feeding you a line. lol

It does have to do with doses. This saying came from the 1800's in the old west. When a dr prescribed something it was almost in the liquid form. The old saying is that if a dr prescribes a teacup full of medicine then just take a teaspoonful first to see what happens. If no problems you can work up to a teacup full.

Any new med or supplement I try I always start with 10 to 29% of the recommended dosage until I see what happens and then work my way up from there.

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 10:36 AM

LOL.... well thanks to Gail for confusing my brainium more than it already is!!

 

But that said, both great advises :)


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Posted 17 March 2019 - 04:04 PM

Fisherman, sorry to say that I'm not feeding Scrat a line.

God gives us seven spoons for the day. Chose your battles wisely. I think that it's This moment or FiveNotions that came up with that.

I would never feed someone a line, I think!

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 04:47 PM

Sorry Gail. Sounds strange to me. Spoons? Oh well, if it works don't fix it.

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Posted 17 March 2019 - 05:09 PM

Our piece of Canadian loveliness is right...

 

https://butyoudontlo...e-spoon-theory/





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