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#151 fishinghat

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 08:13 AM

OK, the blood results are in. For those who don't remember my white blood cell count took a dip as did my thyroid values when I stated on the aqueous Lion's Mane Mushroom. I stopped taking it, waited 8 weeks and retested. My white blood cell count has not only returned to its previous value but is even a little higher. My thyroid values (TSH, t3 and t4) rebounded but not fully. The dr said that was normal as the thyroid adapts to changes slowly.

 

So, no more Lion's Mane Mushroom for me. What a shame. It was so effective for the benzo withdrawal.

 

I have another health issue I am working on right bow so will wait until it is resolved before trying the L-theanine.


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 11:26 AM

Well good news on the wbc front! Love it when a plan comes together...but shame about the Lion's Mane if it was a good treatment for the last of the benzo removal. Theanine would be the logical next step as you said. Will be good to see how you fair with that having had a few members already report on it.

 

Won't pry as to the other health issue, but sincerely hope that it is resolved quickly.

 

As you always say... "hang in there"... :)


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 12:00 PM

Thanks IUN.


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 03:07 PM

Fishinghat

 

please can I ask if your Cymbalta withdrawal story is on here? if so where can I find it?

 

 

 

I have just read this thread with massive admiration.. you are one very special man

 

 

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Posted 13 June 2019 - 04:23 PM

This thread covers most but simply put I use water titration and go slow enough to not have withdrawal symptoms. I have done this now on 3 different occasions (this is the 4th) and have no issues, It does take a couple three years in most cases. If you have any questions I would be glad to answer them. If I can find my earlier post on water titration I will post a link here later.


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Posted 13 June 2019 - 04:29 PM

https://www.cymbalta...ge-4#entry82110

There is also other info on that thread as well.

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Posted 26 June 2019 - 02:58 PM

Well gang it is about time to try and increase my lorazepam weaning speed using L-theanine. I will be making my next batch of lorazepam Friday and I will drop just a notch further. Any symptoms that arrive, I will try and control with the L-theanine. Keep your fingers crossed for me.

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Posted 26 June 2019 - 05:10 PM

You are dropping before a trial run of the l-theanine?

 

And I assume you are going for the suntheanine?


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Posted 26 June 2019 - 05:31 PM

I will be weaning a little faster and if symptoms develop I will try and handle them with the L-theanine. Yes, definitely Suntheanine.

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Posted 26 June 2019 - 06:16 PM

So, are you going to be taking the Suntheanine on an as needed basis, or continually?

 

As you know well, there is evidence for both methods of taking them and from what I have seen, it is largely subjective insomuch that some people can get relief comparable to a benzo - a there and then relief - whilst other need to build up a store of n days which will then provide the proverbial barrier against the anxiety.

 

So if you fall into the latter category this will obviously be a problem in controlling any anxiety symptoms that come up...


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Posted 27 June 2019 - 08:26 AM

At this point I am taking it as needed. We will see how it goes.

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 09:40 AM

So, are you going to be taking the Suntheanine on an as needed basis, or continually?
 
As you know well, there is evidence for both methods of taking them and from what I have seen, it is largely subjective insomuch that some people can get relief comparable to a benzo - a there and then relief - whilst other need to build up a store of n days which will then provide the proverbial barrier against the anxiety.
 
So if you fall into the latter category this will obviously be a problem in controlling any anxiety symptoms that come up...


Scrat, been reading this five times, can you say it in another way please. Why would there be a problem for Dr Hat? Thanks for your patience. Love.

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Posted 27 June 2019 - 12:11 PM

Just concerned that he will start a faster taper before establishing whether he has the meds to help if tings get too much - but he knows what he is doing!!


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Posted 27 June 2019 - 12:25 PM

Not to worry, am increase in wean rate is only 0.1%. Real small.


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Posted 02 July 2019 - 03:42 PM

Well gang I increased the rate of my lorazepam withdrawal a few days ago and as symptoms started to creep in I tried my L-Theanine. I tried 50 mg twice, 100 mg twice and 200 mg twice. I have detected no noticeable effect on the withdrawal symptoms but a strong 8 pt drop in blood pressure though. No positive effects though. The L-theanine is ruled out.


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Posted 02 July 2019 - 03:55 PM

Remember what I said though Hat... some have reported a necessity for a "build-up". I don't know how much truth there is in that - you will have a better idea if this is the sort of stuff that can "build-up". But just throwing it out there...

 

But then again, it did very little, if much at all for me and the wife, so plausible all the same.


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Posted 02 July 2019 - 04:31 PM

Good point. I will stay with it 3 more days. Thanks.


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Posted 02 July 2019 - 05:07 PM

Nothing to loose my friend... keep us posted!


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Posted 08 July 2019 - 10:23 AM

Well, been on 100 mg of Suntheanine 4 times a day now for 7 days and do not notice any effect at all. Oh well. Life goes on.


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Posted 08 July 2019 - 02:44 PM

Are you trying something new?

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Posted 08 July 2019 - 03:42 PM

I have been taking Suntheanine for around 2 weeks now to see if I can withdraw from the lorazepam faster. No luck. Back to a slow pace. Disappointing but n o big deal.


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Posted 08 July 2019 - 03:45 PM

Worth a shot - and at a 400mg divided dose that should have done something if it was going to.

 

As you say, disappointing but no big deal. Move on...





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