I can't thin k of an over the counter drug that wouldn't also carry a risk of further set back. Beta blockers work wonders for this but require a prescription.
Feeling Suicidal. Not Sure If I Have Any Options Left.
Posted 22 February 2020 - 07:54 PM
I have a week down from the start of my last setback... who knows how many more days left to go. Praying I only have a few weeks left like this. I'm looking forward to my SIBO breath test in 9 days.
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Posted 22 February 2020 - 08:04 PM
Your mind controls the setbacks to more than the extent I think you realise.
Just stop and consider how long you let your thoughts wander off about these problems.
There was an experiment done not so long ago whereby participants were invited to do a wordsearch. As soon as they had finished they could leave. That simple.
The control group were given random words to find. The test group were given words that pertain to old age. What the participants did not know was that they were being timed to see how long it took them to walk from the entrance to the door where the experiment was taking place.
On leaving, the control group took more-or-less the same time to reach the door as when they came in.
The test group took almost twice as long walking back as they did when they walked in before they started the experiment.
Something to think about.
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Posted 23 February 2020 - 05:45 AM
Any predictions on when I'll bounce back from this? The heart pounding is strange in this case compared to the others. It's getting progressively worse every day.
Posted 23 February 2020 - 04:39 PM
My anxiety has generally been better on this trip and I'm not quite as dizzy or shaky. If that sensation of my heart thumping out of my chest went away I feel like this setback would be so much easier to deal with. Boy do I get frustrated when I see everyone having the time of their lives and how much I miss that feeling of happiness. Maybe one day.
Posted 24 February 2020 - 10:12 AM
It does not interact with Cymbalta and many of our members have used it.
As you are probably aware adrenaline causes significant effects in the body and brain. Well beta blockers like atenolol do not cross the blood brain barrier into the brain so has little DURECT effect on anxiety BUT it does block adrenaline receptors in the body. These receptors act to cause heart pounding, racing heart during flight or fright reactions. By reducing these symptoms it also tend to cause the patient to relax more and have reduced anxiety due to reduced stress.
Posted 24 February 2020 - 10:21 AM
Officially, beta blockers are not approved for anxiolytic use by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration. However, many controlled trials in the past 25 years indicate beta blockers are effective in anxiety disorders, though the mechanism of action is not known. The physiological symptoms of the fight-or-flight response (pounding heart, cold/clammy hands, increased respiration, sweating, etc.) are significantly reduced, thus enabling anxious individuals to concentrate on the task at hand.
Beta blockers inhibit these normal epinephrine- and norepinephrine-mediated sympathetic actions, but have minimal effect on resting subjects. That is, they reduce the effect of excitement or physical exertion on heart rate and force of contraction, and also tremor, and breakdown of glycogen. Beta blockers can have a constricting effect on the bronchi of the lungs, possibly worsening or causing asthma symptoms.
I would recommend Atenolol with propranolol as a second option as they have the lest risk of side effects.
Posted 25 February 2020 - 08:22 AM
One thing I'm a little concerned about is that I'm in a pretty hot place right now and I carry my medicine with me. I keep the meds out of the sun but I'm worried the heat will alter the effectiveness of the drug. Any thoughts?
Posted 25 February 2020 - 05:46 PM
Also, I'm wondering if the non drowsy anti-histamines might have a lagging effect in setting me back as well. FH what do you think?
Posted 26 February 2020 - 10:10 AM
Could be a routine swing in withdrawal but I would bet on the alcohol. Alcohol goes into the blood stream very fast so any set back from it would have a quick onset. Some wine vinegar mustard contain as much as 50% wine by weight although I am sure a lot of that is lost in processing.
Any negative effect from the antihistamine would show within a day or two and then fade. How long since your last dose?
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