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#31 fishinghat

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 09:07 AM

Acrivastine is a non-drowsy antihistamine and has no anxiety fighting capacity. Sorry.

NAC is OK with it.

No apologies necessary. That is what we are here for. Anytime.

By the way, what is the active ingredient in your inhaler?

#32 Polly38

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 09:26 AM

Thanks Hat. The active ingredient is Salbutamol.

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 09:47 AM

https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Salbutamol
Salbutamol, also known as albuterol and marketed as Ventolin among other brand names.


Adverse effects
The most common side effects are fine tremor, anxiety, headache, muscle cramps, dry mouth, and palpitation.[18] Other symptoms may include tachycardia, arrhythmia, flushing of the skin, myocardial ischemia (rare), and disturbances of sleep and behaviour. Rarely occurring, but of importance, are allergic reactions of paradoxical bronchospasms, urticaria (hives), angioedema, hypotension, and collapse. High doses or prolonged use may cause hypokalemia, which is of concern especially in patients with renal failure and those on certain diuretics and xanthine derivatives.

https://dailymed.nlm...dience=consumer

Drug Incompatibilities

7.1 Beta-Adrenergic Receptor Blocking Agents (beta-blockers)
Beta-blockers not only block the pulmonary effect of beta-agonists, such as VENTOLIN HFA, but may also produce severe bronchospasm in patients with asthma. Therefore, patients with asthma should not normally be treated with beta-blockers. However, under certain circumstances, there may be no acceptable alternatives to the use of beta-adrenergic blocking agents for these patients; cardioselective beta-blockers could be considered, although they should be administered with caution.

Side Effects
5.4 Cardiovascular Effects
VENTOLIN HFA, like all other beta2-adrenergic agonists, can produce clinically significant cardiovascular effects in some patients such as changes in pulse rate or blood pressure. If such effects occur, VENTOLIN HFA may need to be discontinued. In addition, beta-agonists have been reported to produce electrocardiogram (ECG) changes, such as flattening of the T wave, prolongation of the QTc interval, and ST segment depression. The clinical relevance of these findings is unknown. Therefore, VENTOLIN HFA, like all other sympathomimetic amines, should be used with caution in patients with underlying cardiovascular disorders, especially coronary insufficiency, cardiac arrhythmias, and hypertension.

 

5.5 Do Not Exceed Recommended Dose
Fatalities have been reported in association with excessive use of inhaled sympathomimetic drugs in patients with asthma. The exact cause of death is unknown, but cardiac arrest following an unexpected development of a severe acute asthmatic crisis and subsequent hypoxia is suspected.

https://www.ehealthm...n/side-effects/
Most common side effects over time
< 1 month:
⦁ Chest discomfort
⦁ Abdominal pain
⦁ Cough
⦁ Tachycardia (a heart rate that exceeds the range of 100 beats/min)
⦁ Anaemia (lack of blood)
⦁ Asthenia (weakness)
⦁ Chest pain
⦁ Abdominal discomfort
⦁ Atrial fibrillation (fibrillation of the muscles of the atria of the heart)
⦁ Death

3.85% report anxiety as a side effect.


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Posted 16 January 2020 - 10:14 AM

Thanks. So do you think the inhaler is making things worse?

No stomach pain at all today, which is great!Sorry if I've asked this before but can I take NAC as well as the antihistamine? Will get Clarityn later.

Thanks.

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 11:00 AM

I would say that the inhaler isn't making things worse but there are a lot of risks with long term use.

 

NAC is Ok with antihistamines.


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Posted 16 January 2020 - 11:02 AM

Thanks. I will try the Clarityn and hope it works for me like it did for Lyla🤞

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Posted 16 January 2020 - 07:04 PM

Often long term issues with inhalers which is why I was upset when they gave one to my mum when I am sure she doesn't need it.

 

My father - unfortunately due to Parkinson's - does need one. 

 

Hope you had a good day Pol - only just finished work this end... o_O


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Posted 19 January 2020 - 05:22 AM

Hello Polly,

I'm looking forward your update with Claritin. Might help a lot of members. Love!

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Posted 19 January 2020 - 07:34 AM

Thanks Gail! I have responded about what I think my problem is in Lyla's post. I think it is Candida as I've had it before. Haven't taken the Clarityn yet but will let you know if I do.

Hope you're OK. Sending love.

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Posted 22 January 2020 - 01:09 PM

Hi FH

I started on some herbal medicine and a probiotic for the Candida infection I think I have. I think I may be going too quickly with it as I have a twisting sensation in my stomach again - in the centre of the tio of my stomach just below my ribs and the shortness of breath is slightly worse. I think this is die off as the candida is being killed

When I've done a Candida cleanse in the past I have taken Milk Thistle to support my liver. Would it be OK to take milk thistle do you think please? I thought I better check before I take it.

Thanks.

Polly

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Posted 22 January 2020 - 01:31 PM

I found 23 members that had tried milk thistle during their withdrawal. Mostly used for liver detox or nausea. Only one member reported an slight up tick in symptoms.

 

If you reduce your probiotic dose and slowly increase it back up over a few day period you can normally avoid this side effect.


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 01:47 PM

Thanks FH. I have only been taking low doses of both the antifungal and probiotic so maybe I'll stop for a day or so and try again and start low. Not sure whether I'll try the milk thistle.

It's strange how the stomach discomfort disappeared for a few days but came back today with avengeance. Maybe it is candida. My stomach scan has been brought forward a week to 14th February, so that's good.

It's the shortness of breath getting me down the most. Asthma inhalers aren't helping at all and my chest x-ray was clear. Is it at all possible this could still be withdrawal? I'm sorry to keep asking but I'm still at a loss😪.

Thanks.

Polly

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Posted 22 January 2020 - 02:32 PM

Still possible nit this is a long time. Are you still having anxiety?


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 03:15 PM

The shortness of breath is giving me anxiety and I have anxiety in situations which are out of the ordinary. It is totally out of my control. I also have to keep yawning to get air in - definitely air hunger.

I just want it to stop now. Any suggestions of how to help this please?

Thanks.
Polly

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Posted 22 January 2020 - 04:49 PM

There are only two things that I know that can help. Deep breathing and time. As the anxiety fades it should fade.

 

Do you ever wake up because it is hard to breath or does the breathing difficulties begin shortly after waking?


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 05:35 PM

Thanks FH. I never wake up with it. It always starts after I wake up. Have you got any idea how long it may last?

Thanks so much for your replies.

Polly

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Posted 22 January 2020 - 05:39 PM

This breathing/anxiety will forever created a loop.

 

I think there will be something in the results of the scan either way. If there is nothing, it will calm the anxiety, if there is something, it will calm knowing what it to be done and get on and fix it!!

 

The anxiety is no longer a withdrawal thing, it is a byproduct of having endured the withdrawal. Unfortunately, an elongated period of withdrawal can bring its own source of depression and/or anxiety. Nasty paradox...


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 06:02 PM

Polly I agree with IUN I think the scan will bring some answers. If there's nothing there I think you should really consider trying some breathing techniques to help slow your breathing and deepen in. From what I've read hyperventilation is very common with anxiety and you feel like you're not getting enough air where ironically you're actually getting too much. If that's really what it is then I think you will find that the breathing exercises will help. 


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Posted 22 January 2020 - 06:39 PM

If the breathing issue is due to solely anxiety then you will NOT wake up with it. It will start as the anxiety starts during the day. It will end when the anxiety ends. 3 months to 8 months aftyer beiung off give or take. How's that for an accurate guess?  Sorry.


#50 Polly38

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 01:46 AM

Ok thanks. I have had hyperventilation syndrome before and had breathing physio. The breathing issue this time is very different to that.

I have just gone through a recent course of breathing physio and just finished it. I do my breathing exercises daily. I still think it's a result of being given 4 different AD's last year and Diazepam. I'll just have to hang on in there I suppose and hope it goes away but one thing I am sure of is that I will NEVER take another antidepressant ever again.

Polly

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Posted 23 January 2020 - 11:06 AM

God bless you Polly. Hang in there.


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Posted 23 January 2020 - 05:59 PM

Exactly where I am Polly. As soon as I can get the Citalopram out of my system, that will be it. NEVER AGAIN. 

 

Far too many problems created than been fixed.





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